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Old 03-08-2004, 04:25 PM
Sethron
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Default DPS Formulas for comparing weapons

Found this on Steel Warrior.

It looks like a pretty good forumula.

It assumes you are level 65 with all offensive AA's (Ranger)

I don't know ranger but I think at this time we don't have any unique AA's they don't have when it comes to offensive AA's. So this might be a good formula to use.

Comparison value for 2hander = (1+Haste)*(1+(0.7*Crit))*(1.038*((LR*AH*Dmg)+DB)) / (0.1*Dly)

Key:

LR = level ratio = 5.92 at 65, 5.7 at 60 (this is all he mentioned)
AH= average hit percent = .6 (that is 60%) for most. Can be adjusted if you have higher attack than normal, use of Avatar, use
DB= damage bonus
Dmg = weapon's damage rating
Dly = weapon's delay rating

So, since the Windblade vs WMBS is a popular argument (as to which is better) I'll use them for the formula.

Windblade:50/44 and 45 DB
WMBS: 31/28 and 35 DB

Formulas, at level 65, max haste (100%) and assuming 10% crits and 100% hasted:

Windblade: (1+1.0)*(1+(0.7*.10)*(1.038*((5.92*.6*50)+45)) / (0.1*44) = 112.38 DPS

WMBS: (1+1.0)*(1+(0.7*.10)*(1.038*((5.92*.6*31)+35)) / (0.1*28) = 115.12 DPS
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Old 03-08-2004, 04:31 PM
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Found this really old caluclator:

http://www.geocities.com/luthairsite/

I used Warrior and put in 100% haste, level 65, 252 skilll, and STR 305. I left accuracy and the other figures as is.

Windbladed rated 63 and WMBS 66.
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Old 03-08-2004, 04:37 PM
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Well, that is all I could dig up on Google for now, other than the formula I used of Yiktiki's on the Top 5 Dropable weapons thread.

The one I found on Steel Warrior that was posted by a ranger appears to be pretty good. It was put together from extensive parse results. I think it will offer the closest idea of what a particular weapon will do.
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Old 03-08-2004, 05:05 PM
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Using this formula, here are all the weapons I have calculated so far.

I used 7% as the crit chance. I applied a 5% DPS penalty to all piercing (weapons denoted by (P) if they had this penalty applied). This is pure speculation on my part to account for the lower skill cap we have in piercing. Proc effects were NOT considered.

Jagged Axe of Unccontrollable Rage 179.51
Halberd of Endless Pain 178.35
Staff of Shattered Dreams 165.35
Diamond-Tipped War Javelin (P) 150.16
Greatblade of Chaos 148.65
Ra'Tuk Halberd 147.02
Vanazir, Dreamer's Despair 145.06
Timeless Coral Greatsword 143.92
Stone Etched War Sword 142.16
Earthspined Staff 140.78
Votal's Ornate Blade 133.18
Crow Footed Lance (P) 132.06
Ornate Greatblade 130.97
Wailing Coral Staff 129.90
Greatstaff of the Four Winds 127.59
Crozier of Venom 126.72
Greater Polaxe of Sorrow 125.51
Bloodied Berserker's Blade 123.42
Kerasian Axe of Ire 119.12
Greatstaff of Misery (P) 119.04
Darwol's Cleaver 118.68
The Sword of Ssraeshza 117.55
Palladius' Axe of Slaughter 115.71
Velium Gemmed Broadspear (P) 115.09
Basalt Greatsword of the Protector 114.53
Kavilis' Mosquito Lance (P) 114.46
War Marshall's Bladed Staff 112.86
Facesmasher 110.18
Windblade 110.17
Blackened Greatsword 109.89
Scalecracker 109.14
Granite Halberd of Chance 105.42
Double Edged Ga'Nak 105.25
Heavy Windrider's Lance (P) 104.39
Primal Velium Axe/Sword/Stick 101.38
Witness of Hate Great Staff 100.06
Monstrous Flamberge of Alacrity 97.33

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Old 03-14-2004, 08:36 AM
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think the axe was changed from 84 dmg to 81.. i'd say that puts a monk usable weapon on top beins its 57/28..

i didn't calculate dem out though. i'd hafta find me calculater fer dat stuff;x
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Old 03-14-2004, 11:12 AM
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Default Epic DPS

After picking up my Epic I ran some parising software to see what my current DPS was. In BoT fighting iyvs and militia in MS my avg hit was 170 and DPS 130. That was without using my discs or any haste. Max Crit was 430 with the weapon to. This was only after about 5 fights.
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Old 03-14-2004, 12:20 PM
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So with epic.. that formula yields 115.33 dps, not counting the added accuracy comign from the Atk bonus

just wanted to see what it came out to, since ye left it off your list
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Old 03-16-2004, 08:20 AM
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I have an Sk with the Greater Poleaxe of Sorrow, Great Staff of Misery, and OGB.

Maybe the attack rating for Sk being lower makes a difference but the Greatstaff was a much better weapon than the Poleaxe.

Also Greatstaff has a proc, and none on the Poleaxe.

I also prefered the GreatStaff over the OGB.

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Old 03-16-2004, 08:23 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cullgar
So with epic.. that formula yields 115.33 dps, not counting the added accuracy comign from the Atk bonus

just wanted to see what it came out to, since ye left it off your list

Check the Top 20 sticky post. I had put it there.
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Old 03-16-2004, 08:24 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aielblade
I have an Sk with both the Greater Poleaxe of Sorrow, and Great Staff of Misery.

Maybe the attack rating for Sk being lower makes a difference but the Greatstaff was a much better weapon than the Poleaxe.

Also Greatstaff has a proc, and none on the Poleaxe.

I also prefered the GreatStaff over the OGB.
Indeed, the proc can make the difference between two closely ranked weapons. The rankings above, as well as the Top 20 list I have stickied, do not consider procs at all.
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Old 03-16-2004, 09:11 AM
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Actually, I amend that.

I did not compensate for the fact that the Greatstaff is a piercing weapon. I have now applied the 5% DPS penalty to it that I did the other piercing weapons.

It is now ranked #20
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